Comments on: A Labyrinth, A Maze (4): Cipher Complete http://www.cbrap.com/?p=2426 Fri, 10 Sep 2010 14:00:03 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: flycliches http://www.cbrap.com/?p=2426&cpage=2#comment-263043 flycliches Mon, 27 Apr 2009 01:28:31 +0000 http://www.cocaineblunts.com/blunts/?p=2426#comment-263043 nevermind, here it is: http://hiphopandpolitics.wordpress.com/2006/07/15/is-hip-hops-audience-really-80-white/ a little bit of sketchy rhetoric, but worth reading for sure. nevermind, here it is:
http://hiphopandpolitics.wordpress.com/2006/07/15/is-hip-hops-audience-really-80-white/
a little bit of sketchy rhetoric, but worth reading for sure.

]]> By: flycliches http://www.cbrap.com/?p=2426&cpage=2#comment-263039 flycliches Mon, 27 Apr 2009 01:19:52 +0000 http://www.cocaineblunts.com/blunts/?p=2426#comment-263039 does anybody have a link to that davey d article from a few years ago where he deconstructs the 90/75/whatever % of rap music's audience is white suburban teenagers myth. i don't remember all the arguments, but until somebody can show me a study with hard numbers i'm not gonna buy that shit. i think it's funny that after years of people losing their shit when street rap went commercial we're now in a situation where street rap is starting to fall off commercially (supposedly, anyway) and people are... losing their shit. i suspect it will just go back underground and it will still be dope for those in the know, but it's hard to say i guess. does anybody have a link to that davey d article from a few years ago where he deconstructs the 90/75/whatever % of rap music’s audience is white suburban teenagers myth. i don’t remember all the arguments, but until somebody can show me a study with hard numbers i’m not gonna buy that shit.
i think it’s funny that after years of people losing their shit when street rap went commercial we’re now in a situation where street rap is starting to fall off commercially (supposedly, anyway) and people are… losing their shit. i suspect it will just go back underground and it will still be dope for those in the know, but it’s hard to say i guess.

]]> By: Asher Roth Latepass « Kickin’ the Fly Cliches http://www.cbrap.com/?p=2426&cpage=2#comment-262856 Asher Roth Latepass « Kickin’ the Fly Cliches Sun, 26 Apr 2009 16:22:10 +0000 http://www.cocaineblunts.com/blunts/?p=2426#comment-262856 [...] in the rap world (all of which has been covered as extensively as I care to follow it here and here and a few other places too), or anything that is not on the album.  In other words, it will be [...] [...] in the rap world (all of which has been covered as extensively as I care to follow it here and here and a few other places too), or anything that is not on the album.  In other words, it will be [...]

]]> By: DocZeus http://www.cbrap.com/?p=2426&cpage=1#comment-262285 DocZeus Fri, 24 Apr 2009 23:31:21 +0000 http://www.cocaineblunts.com/blunts/?p=2426#comment-262285 Paper Trail outsold King?! Really? Were people really feeling that "Whatever You Like" and the Numa Numa song more than "What You Know?" I find that inexplicable. Considering both those songs are awful. Paper Trail outsold King?! Really? Were people really feeling that “Whatever You Like” and the Numa Numa song more than “What You Know?” I find that inexplicable. Considering both those songs are awful.

]]> By: beas270 http://www.cbrap.com/?p=2426&cpage=1#comment-261198 beas270 Wed, 22 Apr 2009 00:14:37 +0000 http://www.cocaineblunts.com/blunts/?p=2426#comment-261198 Oh, and what about Nipsey Hussle? Dude is g and i feel like he could really come up in a big way. He's doper than Game for sure. Oh, and what about Nipsey Hussle? Dude is g and i feel like he could really come up in a big way. He’s doper than Game for sure.

]]> By: beas270 http://www.cbrap.com/?p=2426&cpage=1#comment-261103 beas270 Tue, 21 Apr 2009 19:13:38 +0000 http://www.cocaineblunts.com/blunts/?p=2426#comment-261103 "no bigging up OJ Da Juiceman. Dude is very close to retarded" .. you arrree “no bigging up OJ Da Juiceman. Dude is very close to retarded” .. you arrree

]]> By: chronwell http://www.cbrap.com/?p=2426&cpage=1#comment-261079 chronwell Tue, 21 Apr 2009 18:09:30 +0000 http://www.cocaineblunts.com/blunts/?p=2426#comment-261079 Asher Roth speaking to what you could argue constitutes as a majority of Hip Hop’s fan base Dont know about that one. Dont forget its 45 y.o. black female suburban kindergarten teachers who jam Salt N Pepa AND Kanye in their Camry on the way home from work. Once U get out of comment sections, U will see that it's way more ppl spendin $ on this rap sh*t than y'all! U think an OJ DJM show aint gonna be a sellout anywhere below VA?! This argument that "YTs are the ones keepin the lights on round here" is faulty! Asher Roth speaking to what you could argue constitutes as a majority of Hip Hop’s fan base

Dont know about that one. Dont forget its 45 y.o. black female suburban kindergarten teachers who jam Salt N Pepa AND Kanye in their Camry on the way home from work. Once U get out of comment sections, U will see that it’s way more ppl spendin $ on this rap sh*t than y’all! U think an OJ DJM show aint gonna be a sellout anywhere below VA?!
This argument that “YTs are the ones keepin the lights on round here” is faulty!

]]> By: matt http://www.cbrap.com/?p=2426&cpage=1#comment-260789 matt Tue, 21 Apr 2009 04:04:22 +0000 http://www.cocaineblunts.com/blunts/?p=2426#comment-260789 Some good points, but i gotta call bullshit on the gucci/big l comparison. and gorilla zoe is not even close to good. i hate asher roth just as much as you do though. and charles hamilton. and i respect you for getting behind some critically overlooked "street"-type rappers, but no bigging up OJ Da Juiceman. Dude is very close to retarded. come on now. Some good points, but i gotta call bullshit on the gucci/big l comparison. and gorilla zoe is not even close to good. i hate asher roth just as much as you do though. and charles hamilton. and i respect you for getting behind some critically overlooked “street”-type rappers, but no bigging up OJ Da Juiceman. Dude is very close to retarded. come on now.

]]> By: d. b. cooper http://www.cbrap.com/?p=2426&cpage=1#comment-260787 d. b. cooper Tue, 21 Apr 2009 03:58:40 +0000 http://www.cocaineblunts.com/blunts/?p=2426#comment-260787 "The labels have abandoned the traditional model of finding the underground hits and breaking them, the model that has produced almost every significant rap act of the past twenty years. They are suddenly so arrogant to think they can create hip hop stars in a petri dish." This really leapt out at me. Have the major labels ever really done that? I always got the feeling that they just generally fell ass backwards into successful hip hop acts by realizing that they didn't know shit. It was when the execs started to think they actually understood the formula of a successful rap act (probably around 1997) that they turned on the road to ruin. It seems like they've been trying to create that petri dish rap star for at least a decade. So my questions are: Isn't this an old phenomena? Or is my perception skewed by my cynicism? “The labels have abandoned the traditional model of finding the underground hits and breaking them, the model that has produced almost every significant rap act of the past twenty years. They are suddenly so arrogant to think they can create hip hop stars in a petri dish.”

This really leapt out at me. Have the major labels ever really done that? I always got the feeling that they just generally fell ass backwards into successful hip hop acts by realizing that they didn’t know shit. It was when the execs started to think they actually understood the formula of a successful rap act (probably around 1997) that they turned on the road to ruin. It seems like they’ve been trying to create that petri dish rap star for at least a decade.

So my questions are:

Isn’t this an old phenomena? Or is my perception skewed by my cynicism?

]]> By: deej http://www.cbrap.com/?p=2426&cpage=1#comment-260707 deej Tue, 21 Apr 2009 00:07:46 +0000 http://www.cocaineblunts.com/blunts/?p=2426#comment-260707 the truth of all this is that without sales as a meaningful barometer, labels just dont need this stuff any more. its going to be a lot more regional, a lot less national-media-profile-type music the truth of all this is that without sales as a meaningful barometer, labels just dont need this stuff any more. its going to be a lot more regional, a lot less national-media-profile-type music

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